Indymedia is the Independent Media Center (or IMC). It is a global participatory (anarchist) network that reports on political and social issues. The Greek chapter is also well known for publishing statements made by terrorist organizations, and believe it or not it overtly applauds violence as a political tactic. The site is also known as a paramilitary website, which apparently encourages hatred against anything and any one that is considered conservative, liberal or basically tips towards the Right (in other words anyone who is not a Leftist is targeted). As such the website follows the movement of the Golden Dawn party as well as many other ordinary people who make (or have made), the mistake of expressing Greek nationalist ideals. Who detests Greek nationalist ideals? Or nationalist ideals in general? Aside from Kissinger, there is always George Soros. Indymedia is funded by the Tides Foundation, which supports a slew of radical leftist organizations, and which has received millions in donations from George Soros’ Open Society Institute. Quite strangely, last Friday, and while two gunmen shot and killed two Golden Dawn members in cold-blood, the Administrators of the Greek chapter of Indymedia took their website offline, or at least this is what one report on defencenet said. The question is obviously why did the site suddenly go down? Were the Administrators trying to hide something? Do they know something about the murders? No one knows, but certainly it is suspicious. Maybe, just maybe authorities should open an investigation... Just a thought. -
The following is a conversation of two anarchists that was featured on the thattimehascome website and featured several years ago. Read what they say to each other, and then draw your own conclusions.
Adamantios on the Serb-Hellenic forum writes:
They are anarchists, as stated previously, not liberals. When I say they are "agents of the West" I mean that they are organized, funded, and directed to do the West's bidding. The majority of these individuals are misguided and confused reactionary extremists of the leftist persuasion who believe they are somehow fighting against capitalism, imperialism, or "the system" by attacking anything remotely nationalistic or religious. In reality, however, they are fighting for capitalism, imperialism, and the political establishment without realizing it. It is precisely religion and nationalism that defends the nation from these things and, therefore, by attacking them the anarchist groups are attempting to weaken the only true defense that exists against globalization. If one examines how ultra-liberals like George Soros operate, one will quickly see that, despite their economic-ideological differences with the left, that the left is a very useful ally to their globalization agenda: leftists, who have shed national and religious loyalties, make the greatest converts to the capitalist cause when communism collapses as they quickly become steadfast materialists. In the case of Greece, communism never rose to power so the strategy is a little bit different: instead of recruiting former communists into the liberal/capitalist camp, they finance anti-national and anti-religious far-leftist groups. After all, they understand that, like the communist experience has shown, the far-left collapses easily, often without even a fight. Nationalism and religion don't and require ceaseless violent persecution for the smallest effect to be gained -- something a liberal democratic political establishment can't freely do but a far-left fringe is more than willing to do. That's where anarchists come in. Controlling them is easy and there is evidence that the Greek political establishment has infiltrated their ranks with police officers and possibly with intelligence agents who influence the group's actions. Regarding this incident, don't you think it odd that an anarchist group made up of individuals who don't work could somehow have the resources to create and print thousands of professional-quality fliers and plaster them all over major cities?
User Snake Logan asks:
So how do you fight those kind of people? Usually you can weaken a group by revealing their ideals as fraud but anarchists have no ideals. Do you propose some kind of rightwing coalition? No, I am opposed to the political right as much as I am opposed to the political left. In truth, they are just two sides of the same coin. The right has done great damage to the nationalist cause by, at times, posing as a representative of nationalism and, by extension, giving nationalism a bad name through this false association. In addition, the right had resulted in creating an ideological obstruction in the minds of right-wing nationalists, in effect preventing any sort of radical and revolutionary nationalist thinking. As such, it is necessary for radical nationalists to extricate right-wing nationalists from the political right by converting them to a revolutionary nationalism. This, too, must be done with left-wing nationalists who may very well be easier to convert given their tradition of quasi-radical thought. (I say "quasi-radical" instead of radical because the left is just as reactionary as the right; despite that, some of their ideas may be genuinely radical.) The result of this, aside from healing old wounds caused by the alien left-right ideological spectrum, will create a strong front. The participation of both former rightists and former leftists will be very helpful in not only recruiting nationalists from those ideological grounds but will also help create a wider appeal. The groundwork for this front already exists as some leftists have realized that only nationalism stands in the way of globalization. It's only a matter of convincing right-wing and left-wing sympathizers to abandon their foreign belief systems for something organic.